Running Plan Review Pete Pfitzinger Advanced Marathoning Multiple Marathoning, 8 Week

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This 8-week plan from Pete Pfitzinger and Scott Douglas is for the stretch between two marathons. Maybe the first one went sideways and you want another go while the fitness is still there, or maybe you planned a double from the start. For a runner who came through the first marathon healthy, it's a smart way to spend 8 weeks: 3 weeks of recovery, a short block of real training, then an easy slide into race day.

Pfitzinger knows that kind of gap from the inside. In 1984 he won the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials, then ran the Olympic marathon later that year as the top American. This plan is built for the same kind of turnaround on a smaller stage: the fitness comes with you from the first race, and the weeks between are for getting your legs back under it.

The catch is timing. The plan's biggest jump comes 3 weeks after your first marathon, just when you're likely to feel ready for it. And strength training is left for you to schedule.

BB

Good

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Structure
5
Prevention
3
Flexibility
4
Readiness
5
Variety
5

The plan has 3 parts. Weeks 1 to 3 are for recovery: short, easy runs, with Mondays and Thursdays set aside for rest or cross-training, and Tuesday too in week 1. Weeks 4 and 5 are the real training, with your first hard sessions and your longest runs, peaking at about 64 miles in week 5. Weeks 6 to 8 wind down to the race, though week 6 still holds a tune-up race and a long run.

It's written for the weeks right after a marathon, and it assumes you just ran one.

A week with Pfitzinger

Here is week 6, two weeks before race week.

MONDAY is rest or cross-training.

TUESDAY is the first hard day. Inside 8 to 9 miles, you run 6 repeats of 600 meters at your current 5K race effort, jogging after each one for between half and nearly all the time the repeat took.

WEDNESDAY is a steady 9 to 10 miles, a little firmer than a recovery run.

THURSDAY is a 5 to 6 mile recovery run, with 6 strides at the end. Strides are 100 meter pickups, fast but relaxed.

FRIDAY is a 4 to 5 mile recovery run.

SATURDAY is an 8K to 10K race, run hard, with a warm-up and cool-down that bring the day to 10 to 12 miles.

SUNDAY is a 16 to 17 mile long run.

That's 6 runs and about 55 miles, with 2 hard days and Monday off. The recovery runs really mean recovery. The book's test is whether you finish feeling like you stored energy rather than spent it.

Saturday is the day to look forward to. It's a chance to pin on a number again, and to feel how much of the first marathon's fitness you still have. It also shows you how your legs respond to a hard effort a few weeks after a marathon.

But Sunday decides the week. You wake up on legs that raced the day before, and 16 or more miles are waiting. If you start slow, the first few miles might feel stiff, but by the middle you'll probably settle into an easy rhythm. If you try to prove the race didn't take anything out of you, you'll carry that soreness into the last two weeks, and it may still be there on race day.

Does it build you up smartly?

Structure5/5

Pfitzinger builds these 8 weeks around the race you just ran, and each stretch has a clear job.

The first 3 weeks aren't a base. They're recovery from the marathon you just ran, and the plan treats them that way, with easy running, at least two days off a week, and nothing hard. Weeks 4 and 5 are where the training happens, and weeks 6 to 8 bring you down to the race. Splitting training into stretches with different jobs tends to beat holding one load all the way through, and this split suits an 8-week gap.

Each run on the schedule names its type, its distance and its hard part, and the book has a chapter on what each type is for, so nothing on the grid is a mystery. On a hard day, you know the warm-up, the work, and what the session is meant to do before you leave the house. Molly Huddle, billed by the publisher as a two-time Olympian, wrote in a blurb for the book that it "provides a focused purpose every day so that you get to race day fit enough, rested enough, and healthy enough to have a great experience." Between two marathons, getting there rested is half the job, and the first 3 weeks are built for it.

Does it protect you from injury?

Prevention3/5

Not as well as it could. The weak spot is week 4, and it comes just when you're likely to feel safest.

Three weeks after a marathon, the soreness has usually faded, and easy runs start to feel routine again. Then week 4 asks for a lot at once. Mileage jumps from about 41 to about 57, and your first threshold run, your first hill sprints and your first long run of 16 to 17 miles all land in the same week. Weekly jumps of this size, above about 30%, tend to raise the risk of injury, and this is the biggest one in the plan.

Feeling recovered can run ahead of being recovered. In training, the body tends to adapt on a staggered clock, with blood and muscle energy systems quickest and tendons and bone weeks to months behind. Your breathing may tell you you're ready long before your Achilles agrees. So run week 4 at the low end of the distance range the book gives for every day.

Strength is a gap too. The book lays out a detailed strength program in its own chapter, but none of it is on the schedule. Finding room for it in a 6-run week is up to you, and it matters, because strength training lowers the risk of injury, and does more for it than stretching. Marathon great Eliud Kipchoge once wrote about his training that "the gym work helps to chase away the injuries and train the muscles." Weeks 2 and 3, with only 5 runs each, are the easiest place to start.

The plan does get some things right. No two hard sessions fall on consecutive days, and week 7 comes down to about 43 miles after the 3 biggest weeks, a clear breather before race week. Every hard session opens with a warm-up, and the book explains how to spot overtraining and illness. But it doesn't give a plan for returning after a specific injury. So treat a niggle, an ache that hangs around from one run to the next, as a reason to back off, especially in weeks 4 and 5. Early evidence, though from footballers rather than runners, suggests a lingering niggle may raise the risk of a full injury. "I'd bet those who shut it down at the first signs of a niggle tend to have the longest careers," wrote obstacle-course racing champion Amelia Boone, who also races ultras. In weeks 4 and 5, that's the instinct to trust.

What happens when you miss a day?

Flexibility4/5

Eight weeks is a short window, and one lost week is an eighth of it. What helps most when that happens is knowing which runs to keep.

The book gives you the order, but not the list. It ranks endurance first, then threshold, then faster work, and it says long runs come first. But it never turns that into a list of what to drop from a short week, so the call is yours. With Mondays always open, there's a spare day to slide a run into. But in weeks 4 to 7, with 6 runs a week, every move pushes something else along.

For longer breaks, the book has a clear rule, based on how many days you missed and how many weeks remain. Under 10 days, you pick the schedule back up. Because this plan always sits within 8 weeks of a marathon, missing 10 days or more means the book asks you to rethink your goal. "Missing 2.5 weeks of preparation when you have 16 weeks to go is no big deal, but missing that amount of time during the last 2 months of preparation will likely require you to modify your goal," the authors write. On this plan, every week sits inside those last 2 months. That's a hard call, but it's a fair one.

When you do have to improvise, the book makes it easier. Every type of run comes with what it's for, the effort it needs and the mistake runners most often make with it, so you know what a missed session was supposed to do before you decide whether to replace it.

Will it get you ready for race day?

Readiness5/5

Yes. The plan gives a second marathon what it needs: long runs to hold your endurance, a little fast running, and a real step down before race day.

This plan doesn't try to build marathon fitness. You bring that with you from your first race, and the plan's job is to hold onto it. The longest run, 19 to 20 miles, comes in week 5, 3 weeks before race week, and 3 runs of 16 miles or more keep the distance in your legs. Longer long runs tend to go with faster marathon finishes, though the evidence is early and only shows a link. Then mileage steps down over 3 weeks, and race week is a handful of short runs before the marathon.

The faster work fills in around it. A threshold run in week 4, then 3 rounds of repeats at 5K effort, keep fast running in your legs in small doses. The 8K to 10K race in week 6 gives you a chance to race again with less on the line, and racing experience may help runners pace a marathon more evenly. "Like any other skill, pacing requires repetition. No runner gets their pacing right the first time," writes coach and author Matt Fitzgerald. Week 6's race gives you one more chance to practice, over a distance where a pacing mistake costs you little.

In race week, Wednesday's run puts 2 miles at marathon effort inside 6 to 7 miles, a last reminder of the rhythm you'll hold on Sunday.

Are the workouts varied enough?

Variety5/5

Yes. Four kinds of hard work, each with a clear job, sit on top of mostly easy running.

About 86 percent of your miles are easy, and trained runners who keep easy days easy and hard days hard tend to improve more than runners who settle into a steady medium effort. The hard part is holding back. "Almost all the problems we have are that athletes are so motivated that they're dumb," says exercise scientist Carl Foster, who studied how coaches and athletes see training. On this plan, that means keeping the easy 86 percent truly easy, so the hard days get your best. The hard sessions change from week to week: one threshold run, three different sets of repeats at 5K effort, a race, and a short marathon-effort run in race week.

The easy runs carry some variety too. Strides show up in most weeks, starting in week 2, and week 4 adds a set of 10-second hill sprints. These short, fast efforts take only a few minutes. Explosive work like hill sprints can make runners more economical, though strides on their own haven't been tested.

The good & bad of training from a book

Advanced Marathoning treats you as a runner who wants to understand the training. Every type of run gets its purpose, its effort, and a heart-rate range for all but the fastest work, and the reasons behind the order of the work are laid out early in the book. The grid itself is clean: weeks counting down to race day, and each day's run in miles and kilometers.

But you read before you run. The explanation for a session sits chapters away from the grid, the strength program has its own chapter, and the pace charts are at the back. The repeats ask for your current 5K effort, but there's no chart to find it, so you'll need a recent race or a good guess.

Nothing on the page moves on its own, either. If week 5's Thursday, 14 to 15 miles the morning after 5 repeats of 1 kilometer, leaves you flat for the weekend, the book will tell you which runs matter most. But reworking the rest of the week is up to you. The book respects your intelligence, and it expects you to use it.

Is it right for you?

You came through your first marathon healthy, and the next is 8 weeks away

Run it. This is the situation the plan was written for, from the first recovery run to race day.

Your last build reached the 60s on 6 days a week

Run it. Weeks 4 and 5 sit close to what you've already run, so they're familiar ground rather than a step up.

Your first marathon left you with an ache that hasn't gone away

Look elsewhere. Week 4 adds much more running and 3 new kinds of work at once, which is a hard week to bring a sore spot into.

You've never run a marathon

Look elsewhere. The plan assumes you just ran one, and the book has no plan for a first marathon.

You've never raced and then run long the next day

Think it over. Week 6 asks for an 8K to 10K race on Saturday and 16 to 17 miles on Sunday.

You don't have a recent 5K time

Think it over. All three sets of repeats are run at your current 5K effort, and the book has no chart to find it.

A good alternative with an app

If you like how Pfitzinger trains, Buena Vida offers its members a similar plan for your next full marathon build. It trains by effort, pairs tempo runs with repeats at 5K and 10K effort through the build weeks, puts strides on easy days, builds the long run to 20 miles, and keeps a short marathon-effort run in race week. It isn't designed to fit between two marathons, but it gives the next one a full 16 weeks.

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Why this plan scores higher

  • Long runs that build from 10 to 20 miles over 13 weeks, never far past your longest of the past month, where this plan's long run jumps to 16 to 17 miles in week 4
  • Strength sessions on your calendar every Thursday until race week
  • A build that starts where you are, at about 30 miles a week, and takes 16 weeks to reach its peak of 57, instead of peaking in the mid 60s 5 weeks after a marathon
  • A tempo run on most Mondays of the build, growing from 3 to 6 miles of comfortably hard running, where this plan has a single threshold run
  • A note on every run that says what it's for, how hard it should feel and how to pace it

What the app adds

  • No complicated lookup tables. Each day's workout is clear and easy to follow
  • Paces worked out from your own fitness, and adjusted automatically as you get stronger
  • Miss a run, move a run, and the plan carries on
  • Voice coaching through every workout, and runs recorded from your iPhone, Apple Watch, or Garmin

Get more out of your running with Buena Vida

Buena Vida was built by a runner to bring the whole job of training into one place: a plan that fits your schedule and your fitness, coaching on every run, and food targets that keep up with the work you do. Members get personal training & nutrition plans, plus full access to the catalog of pre-written plans for every running goal.

In research studies, runners on plans fit to them improved as much as or more than runners on fixed plans, and fewer of them stalled.

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Frequently asked questions

Do I need the book to run the Pfitzinger 8-week multiple marathon plan?
Yes. The schedule names each run by its type, and the book explains what each type is for, how hard to run it, and which heart-rate range fits it. Without the book, the grid tells you how far to go but not how hard.
What does "LT" mean in Pfitzinger's plans?
LT stands for lactate threshold, the effort you could hold for about an hour of racing. The book places it between your current 15K and half marathon race pace, and prescribes it in minutes rather than miles, so faster and slower runners get the same dose.
How soon after my first marathon does this plan start?
The week after it. Week 1 has 4 short recovery runs, with Monday, Tuesday and Thursday for rest or cross-training. Weeks 2 and 3 keep Mondays and Thursdays off, and the first hard session comes in week 4.
How many days a week does the plan run?
4 days in week 1, 5 in weeks 2 and 3, 6 from week 4 to week 7, and 5 plus the marathon in race week.
Does the Pfitzinger multiple marathon plan include strength training?
The book includes a full strength program in its own chapter, but none of the sessions are on the schedule. Fitting them into the week is up to you.
Does the plan have a recovery week or a taper?
Both, at the ends. The opening 3 weeks are easy running while you recover from your last marathon, and the closing 3 step down toward race day. There's no lighter week in the middle.
What if I get sick during the 8 weeks?
Under 10 days off, carry on with the schedule where you are. Any longer, with the race this close, and the book's advice is to set a new goal for the marathon.

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