Running Plan Review Jack Daniels 2Q Marathon Training Plan, 101 to 120 Miles per Week

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This marathon plan from Jack Daniels is the biggest of the marathon plans in his book that build each week around two hard sessions. It's written for runners whose weeks reach 101 to 120 miles. Daniels was an exercise physiologist who studied under Per-Olof Åstrand and later worked as Nike's physiologist. He also won two Olympic team medals in modern pentathlon. Amby Burfoot, as editor of Runner's World, named him "the world's best running coach." In his plans, every run has a job in the body, and every pace comes from a race you've already run.

The idea behind this plan is strong. Two sessions a week carry all the hard running, and every other day is easy. Those two sessions are big: long runs with 16 or 18 miles at marathon effort, and threshold workouts with 14 miles of hard running in a single session. For a runner whose body already handles big mileage, it's serious, specific marathon training. But the plan has no lighter week until the taper, and it asks for far more running than a marathon needs. It works for the small group of runners who already live at this mileage. For a runner stretching to reach it, it asks too much, too soon.

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Decent

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Structure
3
Prevention
4
Flexibility
4
Readiness
3
Variety
5

The plan runs 18 weeks. Every week has the same frame: a long session on the first day, a second hard session three days later, and easy running on every other day. The long session comes in three kinds: steady runs of 20 to 23 miles, long runs with big blocks at marathon effort, and long runs with threshold blocks set around easy miles. The midweek session rotates through threshold work, the hard effort you could hold for about an hour, and faster repeats at the effort you could race a 5K at. The running eases off over the last 2 weeks. Every pace comes from tables in the book, read off a recent race time.

It's written for runners who are already running about 85 miles a week. The easy days carry most of the miles, and how long you run on them depends on the weekly total you're aiming for.

A week with Daniels

The book lets you start the week on any day. Start it on a Sunday, and here is a week from the middle of the plan, 11 weeks before the race.

SUNDAY is the long session, 25 miles. You run 5 easy, then 8 at marathon effort, then 1 mile at threshold effort, then 8 more at marathon effort, another threshold mile, and 2 easy to finish.

MONDAY is easy.

TUESDAY is easy.

WEDNESDAY is the second hard day, 16 miles. After 4 easy miles, you run 5 repeats of 2 miles at threshold effort, with 2 minutes of easy jogging between them, then 2 easy miles home.

THURSDAY is easy.

FRIDAY is easy.

SATURDAY is easy.

Only 2 of the 7 days are hard. The book allows an easy day to become a rest day now and then. The other five carry most of the week's miles, and the plan asks you to run whatever on them keeps the week near your mileage target, so their length is yours to set.

Sunday holds the week's real test. The marathon-effort blocks are long enough to settle into, and the first threshold mile, after 13 miles, feels like a gear change. The second one starts after 22 miles of running. That mile teaches you what it feels like to push when your legs have already done most of a marathon.

Wednesday is steadier: 10 miles at threshold, cut into five pieces. Each one is short enough to hold together and long enough that its last half mile is work. The 2 minutes of jogging between them are just enough to start the next.

The week is decided on Monday and Tuesday. With the easy days open-ended, it's tempting to make them a little longer and a little quicker to keep the weekly total climbing. Do that, and you reach Wednesday's repeats already tired. Keep them slow, even when slow feels like a waste of a morning, and both hard days get your best.

Does it build you up smartly?

Structure3/5

Partly. The plan moves through two clear stages, but the stages go unnamed, and many of the hard days arrive as bare numbers.

A marathon build usually moves in stages. Easy running comes first, harder work stacks on top of it, and race-specific running arrives late. Plans built that way tend to beat plans that hold one kind of training all the way through, though the edge the research finds is small.

This plan does have a shape. Through week 14, the midweek session leans on threshold work. Weeks 15 and 16 shift toward faster repeats and the longest stretch of marathon effort in the plan, 3 weeks before the race. Then comes the taper. The weekly rhythm is clear from day one.

But the shape is mostly visible in hindsight. The phases aren't named on the schedule, and the long marathon-effort runs start early and stay big from then on. The sessions are only partly written out, too. Over half the hard days come as a string of distances and efforts with no word on what they're for, so the reasons live in the book rather than on the schedule.

Does it protect you from injury?

Prevention4/5

Mostly. The weeks build in small steps, but one early long run reaches well past the runs before it, and the build has no lighter week until the taper.

Week 3 brings the first 20-mile run, 5 miles past the longest run of the month before, along with the first fast repeats at 5K effort. Week 4 keeps the pressure on: a 21-mile run with 13 miles at marathon effort is followed 3 days later by a 22-mile session with 14 miles at threshold. Sudden jumps in running load tend to raise injury risk, most clearly when a single run goes well past your recent longest, and many injuries that look like slow wear appear to start suddenly, often right after a run like week 3's.

Who starts matters. Higher, steady weekly mileage tends to go with fewer injuries, not more, though the evidence is observational. A runner who has lived at 85 miles a week for months meets those early weeks with legs already used to the pounding. A runner who climbed to 85 just to begin meets them with a body still catching up.

The build also never lets up. From the first week to the start of the taper there is no lighter week, so for 16 weeks each week's running lands on top of the last one's. Most plans back off every 3 to 5 weeks, a spacing that comes from coaching practice, because load that builds with no relief tends to raise injury and illness risk, and a fixed plan has to write that relief in. A runner who has trained at this volume before may know when to ease off. The plan leaves that call to you.

The plan does protect you in two ways. The 2 hard days always have at least 2 easy days between them, so hard never lands on hard. And every hard session opens with at least 2 easy miles, often far more, before the first hard step.

But strength training is left to you. The book lays out a full program, and the schedule has none of it. For a runner chasing 110 miles a week, finding room for it around 7 runs is a real puzzle, and an easy one to give up on. That's a loss, because strength training substantially lowers injury risk in sport, more than stretching or balance work alone.

The book gives a clear way back after time off, with tables for how far to step back and how to build again. But it says less about the moment something starts to ache in week 9. Early evidence, not yet from runners, suggests a lingering ache like that may come before an injury that stops you running. At 100 miles a week, 2 easy days at the first sign are a small price. Running through it to stay on schedule is the bigger gamble.

What happens when you miss a day?

Flexibility4/5

A missed easy day barely registers at this volume. The harder question is what to do when the day you lose is a 25-mile run or the 14-mile threshold ladder.

The plan gives you some footing. The book numbers each week's 2 hard sessions in order of importance, the long day first, and lets an easy day become a rest day now and then. From that you can work out what to protect in a short week, though the book leaves the call to you.

Every hard run also has an exact target. The book's tables turn one race result into a pace for every kind of running in the plan, so you never have to guess what threshold effort means on a given morning. For longer breaks, the book has tables for how far to step back and how to build up again.

But the schedule assumes every session gets done. If you lose Sunday's 25 miles, nothing says whether to run it midweek, fold part of it into Wednesday, or let it go. Every easy day already holds a run, so moving the long day means reshuffling the week around it, and you make that call alone.

Will it get you ready for race day?

Readiness3/5

The plan builds the right fitness for a marathon, but it asks for far more running than the race requires, and it keeps the hard running going into the taper.

A marathon asks you to hold a strong effort for hours, and most plans prepare you with long runs and harder running near race effort. Early evidence links longer long runs with faster marathons, though no study has tested whether shorter, harder sessions could do the same job. Threshold running and marathon-effort running are different kinds of training, and either is a reasonable way to prepare.

This plan has both, in quantity. The steady long runs top out at 23 miles, and the longest sessions reach 25. Threshold work shows up in most weeks. The marathon-effort blocks are real rehearsals: 14 miles without a break in week 5, 16 in week 14, and 18 in week 16. Together, those blocks add up to hours at marathon effort on tired legs.

The first gap is the volume. A plan for 101 to 120 miles a week asks for far more than a marathon itself demands. That's the premise of this tier, and its cost: every extra mile is one more your legs have to recover from, week after week.

The second is what happens inside the taper. Easing off for 1 to 3 weeks before a race tends to help runners race better, and this plan's 2 weeks fit that. But the hard running doesn't ease with the miles. Two weeks out, the plan still has two threshold sessions, one of them with threshold blocks on either side of an hour of easy running, and race week has a threshold session 5 days before the race. After 16 heavy weeks, that's a lot of hard running to carry into the final days. Some runners handle that well. Others reach the start line still tired.

Are the workouts varied enough?

Variety5/5

Yes. The hard days change shape all the time, and each shape works on something different.

The midweek session rotates through threshold repeats of 1 to 3 miles, descending ladders from 5 miles down to 2, and repeats of 1 kilometer to 1 mile at the effort you could race a 5K at. Some of those interval days end with short, fast repeats of 200 or 400 meters, a low-cost way to practice running fast. Short, explosive efforts may also help economy, though the studies tested jumps and explosive strength work rather than repeats like these. The long session adds its own range: steady runs, long blocks at marathon effort, and threshold blocks set inside a long run.

Around all of that, the plan keeps about 80 percent of the running easy. Easy miles form the base that carries the hard work and helps the body adapt to it. And trained runners tend to improve more when easy days stay easy and hard days stay hard than when everything drifts toward a steady medium effort. This plan draws that line clearly: 2 hard days a week, and everything around them easy.

The good & bad of training from a book

Daniels' Running Formula is where the reasoning lives. Each kind of run gets its job in the body spelled out, each pace is tied to a race you've run, and the plan stops looking like a list of numbers once you've read why each session is there.

But running this plan from the book takes work. The schedule is written in the book's own shorthand, a string of letters and numbers for each session, and about half the hard sessions don't say what they're for. What each run is for is in one chapter, the paces are in tables in another, and strength and time off are in a third. Strength isn't on the schedule, and neither are the strides the book asks for, short fast pickups on 2 or 3 easy days a week. In practice, a hard day starts the night before, with the book open in three places.

Your paces come from your most recent race, read through the book's tables. Race again during the build and the tables give you new ones. The schedule has no race on it, so finding one is up to you.

Is it right for you?

You've run 85+ miles a week for months and stayed healthy

Run it. You have the base this plan assumes, and the early jump lands on legs that are ready for it.

You want an exact target for every hard rep

Run it. The book's tables give you one for every kind of running in the plan.

You're building up to 85 miles a week to start

Look elsewhere. The first 20-mile run comes in week 3, before you've had time to settle in.

You're coming back from an injury this year

Look elsewhere. 16 weeks with no lighter week leave little room for a body still healing.

You want a day off every week

Look elsewhere. The book allows an easy day off now and then, but the schedule has a run on all 7 days.

You have no recent race result

Think it over. The book's tables need one to set your paces, and a new race during the build to move them.

A good alternative with an app

If Daniels' rhythm of hard days kept apart suits you, Buena Vida offers its members an 18-week marathon plan with a similar frame: two hard midweek days with an easy day between them, a long run that reaches 20 to 22 miles, and easy running around them, with marathon effort saved for the final weeks. It asks for far fewer miles, and it builds in what this plan leaves out.

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Why this plan scores higher

  • A lighter week every fourth week through the build, so the running eases off on a schedule instead of piling up
  • Long runs that build from 14 miles to 22 without any single run reaching far past your longest of the month before
  • Strides on easy days, written into the week instead of left to memory
  • Biggest weeks near 60 miles, about half of what this plan asks, with hours of your week left over
  • 6 runs a week and a day without running, instead of a run on all 7
  • Strength sessions on your calendar every Friday until race week

What the app adds

  • No complicated lookup tables. Each day's workout is clear and easy to follow
  • Paces worked out from your own fitness, and adjusted automatically as you get stronger
  • Miss a run, move a run, and the plan carries on
  • Voice coaching through every workout, and runs recorded from your iPhone, Apple Watch, or Garmin

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Buena Vida was built by a runner to bring the whole job of training into one place: a plan that fits your schedule and your fitness, coaching on every run, and food targets that keep up with the work you do. Members get personal training & nutrition plans, plus full access to the catalog of pre-written plans for every running goal.

In research studies, runners on plans fit to them improved as much as or more than runners on fixed plans, and fewer of them stalled.

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Each of these plans takes its own route to race day. Effort-based plans, like the Buena Vida plan above, set your hard sessions by feel, so you learn what 10K effort and tempo feel like, and your training paces grow with you as you get stronger. Time-goal plans set every pace from the finish time you're aiming for. Others trade days, weeks, or mileage to fit your life.

Frequently asked questions

Do I need the book to run the Daniels 2Q marathon plan?
Yes. The schedule gives each session as a string of run types and distances, and only the book's tables turn those types into paces. You'll also need a recent race result to read the tables from.
What does 2Q mean in the Daniels marathon plan?
Q is Daniels' label for one of the week's hard sessions. A 2Q plan has 2 of them a week, numbered Q1 and Q2 in order of importance. Everything else is easy running.
What is VDOT in the Daniels plan?
VDOT is the fitness number Daniels assigns to a race result. The book's tables match your race time to that number, and the number to a pace for every kind of run in the plan. A faster race gives you a higher number and new paces.
How many miles a week do I need to start the 101 to 120 mile plan?
About 85 miles a week, run for a good while before you start. The plan opens with real sessions in its first week, not a gentle build.
How many days a week does this plan run?
7. Every day has a run on the schedule. The book allows an easy day to become a rest day now and then.
Does the Daniels 2Q marathon plan include strength training?
The book lays out a strength program, but none of it appears on the schedule. Fitting it in around 7 days of running is up to you.
Does the plan have recovery weeks or a taper?
There is no lighter week in the build. The running eases off over the last 2 weeks, though both still include threshold work.
What happens if I miss a week of the Daniels plan?
The schedule doesn't cover it. The book numbers each week's hard sessions by importance and has tables for returning after a longer break. How to rearrange a missed week is your call.

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