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This marathon plan from Jack Daniels is 18 weeks of training for runners who already run 86 to 100 miles a week. Daniels was an exercise physiologist who studied under Per-Olof Åstrand and later worked as Nike's physiologist, and the plan reads like it. Every session has a job in the body, and every pace comes from a race you've already run.
The training at its heart is strong. 2 hard days a week do all the structured work, the other 5 are easy, and the race-specific running grows to 16 miles at marathon effort in one go, 3 weeks before the start. For a runner with the base, it's demanding, specific marathon training. But the miles dip only in week 17, both hard sessions stay full size until race week, and strength work is left off the schedule entirely. At this mileage, that puts the job of staying healthy squarely on you.
Decent
| Structure | 3 | |
| Prevention | 4 | |
| Flexibility | 4 | |
| Readiness | 4 | |
| Variety | 5 |
The plan runs 18 weeks, with a run on every day. Monday holds the week's biggest session, and Thursday holds the second. The days around them are easy, so the 2 hard days always have at least 2 easy days between them.
Monday rotates. Every third week it's a long, easy run that grows from 18 miles to 22. In the weeks between, it's a run of 17 to 22 miles with long stretches at marathon effort, or with threshold running tucked inside it. Thursday is either threshold repeats or intervals near 5K effort, a few times finished with short, fast repeats.
Every pace comes from a table in the book, read off a recent race result. The plan's notes say it assumes you have held 80 or more miles a week for several months and can run past 2 hours without fading. If your weekly base sits below 70 miles, they send you to a lower mileage tier.
Week 8, 11 weeks out
Here is a week from the middle of the build, with both hard days at full size.
MONDAY is 20 miles. You run 4 easy, then 6 at marathon effort, then 1 at threshold, the comfortably hard effort you could race for about an hour. Then 6 more at marathon effort, 1 more at threshold, and 2 easy to finish.
TUESDAY is an easy run.
WEDNESDAY is easy again.
THURSDAY is the second hard day. After 4 easy miles, you run 4 repeats of 2 miles at threshold, with 2 minutes of easy running between them, then 2 easy miles home.
FRIDAY is easy.
SATURDAY is easy.
SUNDAY is easy.
The schedule lists each easy day as an hour. The plan's notes ask you to stretch them until the week reaches your total, so at this tier those 5 days carry most of your miles.
Monday's first switch to threshold comes after 10 miles, and it feels good: you're finally allowed to push. The hard part is the mile after it, when you have to drop back to marathon effort and hold it for 6 more. Settling back into race rhythm with your breathing still up is a skill, and this is where you learn it. The second time you reach threshold, the plan lets you off with 2 easy miles home.
But the week turns on Tuesday. Legs often feel fine again by Tuesday afternoon, and that's when easy runs drift into medium ones. Keep Tuesday and Wednesday slow enough to talk through, and Thursday's 8 miles at threshold land on legs that are ready for them. Let them drift, and Thursday arrives on half-recovered legs, and next Monday on worse ones.
The schedule starts the week on Monday, but the book lets you start it on any day, so the 20-miler can move to a weekend.
Does it build you up smartly?
Marathon training tends to work best in blocks: a base, a build, then race-specific work. Shifting the emphasis from block to block tends to beat holding one steady kind of training, though the edge the research finds is small. Daniels gets the order right here but tells you little about it, and that's where the plan loses ground.
This plan has blocks, even if the schedule never names them. Through week 14 the work leans on threshold running. In weeks 15 and 16 the emphasis turns toward quicker repeats and the plan's longest run at marathon effort.
The book explains what each kind of run is for, but the schedule passes little of that on. Fewer than half the hard sessions say what they're for.
Does it protect you from injury?
Mostly, and much of the protection comes from who the plan is for.
Big mileage sounds risky, but the research tends to point the other way. Runners who keep their weekly mileage high and steady tend to get hurt less, not more, though that evidence is observational. Expert guidance also holds, though no study has tested it, that a plan should start near the mileage you already run. This plan asks for exactly that: months at 80 miles or more before week 1. From there, the weekly total never jumps steeply, the 2 hard days are never back to back, and every hard session opens with easy running, anywhere from 2 to 10 miles of it.
But the breaks never come. Apart from a dip in week 17, the weekly total holds roughly level from week 3 to week 16, and both hard sessions arrive at full size every week until race week. Most plans pull back every 3 to 5 weeks, an interval set by coaching practice rather than research. When load keeps building with no relief, injury and illness risk tend to rise, and a fixed schedule is where that relief has to live. You'd feel it by week 12, when Monday is 22 miles and Thursday holds 8 miles at threshold, and your legs haven't had a lighter week since the plan began. Because you set the length of your own easy days, you could make a lighter week yourself, but nothing on the schedule says when.
And mileage alone doesn't measure your load. On this schedule, the weekly totals barely move, but the stress inside them does. In week 14, Monday's 21 miles hold 13 at marathon effort, and Thursday's ladder adds 10 miles at threshold. That costs far more than the same miles run easy, and the plan stacks weeks like it with no lighter one between them.
Strength is the other gap. The book lays out a strength program in its chapter on strength and time off, but the schedule never makes room for it. With a run every day and 2 long, hard sessions a week, when to fit it in is your call, and strength training lowers sport injury risk more than stretching or balance work does. In a plan this heavy, that's a real hole.
What happens when you miss a day?
Yes, as long as you're the one doing the replanning.
The paces travel well. Every hard run is pinned to an effort, from marathon effort to threshold to 5K effort, and the book's tables turn a single race result into a pace for each. After a lost week, race again, and the tables hand you paces that fit the runner you are now. For longer breaks, the book has tables for how far to step back. It also lets an easy day become a rest day now and then.
But the schedule itself has no give. The 2 hard days are numbered, and the numbering hints that Monday's comes first, but nothing says what to drop when a week goes wrong. Miss a Monday like week 8's and you've lost 20 miles with 12 at marathon effort, in a week where every day already holds a run. Move it to Tuesday, and Thursday's threshold repeats land 2 days later on tired legs. Drop it, and the build loses one of its biggest steps. Whatever room you find has to come out of the easy days.
Will it get you ready for race day?
A marathon asks for two things: endurance, and an effort you can hold for hours. This plan builds both, and its one weak spot is the final fortnight.
Early evidence links longer long runs with faster marathons, though no study has tested whether shorter, faster sessions could do the same job. Here every Monday is a long run, even the hard ones.
Marathon effort holds at about 12 miles a session through the first half, reaches 13 in week 14, and 16 without a break in week 16, 3 weeks out. Threshold running fills most weeks too, often dropped inside the marathon effort runs, so you learn to surge and settle back. For most recreational marathoners, marathon effort and threshold running are different kinds of training, and either is a reasonable way to prepare, so a plan heavy in both covers the ground.
But the threshold work runs too close to the race. 2 weeks out, the plan still holds 2 threshold sessions with 17 miles of threshold between them. The easy miles dip that week, but only race week lets the legs freshen up. Runners who cut their training by roughly 40 to 60 percent over the last 1 to 3 weeks, while keeping some faster running, race better than runners who keep training through. With the hard work held until the final week, most of that benefit has to come from race week alone.
Are the workouts varied enough?
Yes. Few weeks in this plan feel like the one before.
Around 4 of every 5 miles are easy, and easy miles are the base that carries the hard training. On top of them, the hard days come in many shapes: long runs at marathon effort, threshold miles dropped inside them, ladders of 4, 3, 2 and 1 miles at threshold, and repeats near 5K effort, sometimes followed by short, fast repeats near mile effort. Mixing clearly hard sessions into mostly easy running may build endurance a little better than steady, moderate running, and this plan never blurs the line between easy and hard.
The variety runs on a rhythm, too. The long easy run every third Monday turns the week's focus back to plain endurance before the next block of race-specific work, so the training never sits on one note for long.
The good & bad of training from a book
Daniels' Running Formula is a book to study, not just consult. Its chapters on what each kind of run does, and on how a race result becomes a set of paces, give every session on the schedule a reason.
The schedule is the opposite: sparse. Of a week of 86 to 100 miles, it writes out only the 2 hard days, in the book's own shorthand. The rest it marks as easy, and the miles that fill them live in your head. The paces sit in tables in a separate chapter.
Strides are the clearest thing left off. The book asks for these short, relaxed bursts of speed on 2 or 3 easy days a week, but none appear on the schedule. Rearranging the week after a missed day and keeping a log are yours to manage too.
Your paces also stay tied to the race you started from. They change only when you race again and look them up afresh, so a race in the middle of the build is how you keep them current.
Is it right for you?
Run it. That's the base the plan is written for, and it starts right where you are.
Look elsewhere. The plan's own notes send you to a lower mileage tier.
Think it over. Your paces come from a race result and change only after another one.
Think it over. Both hard sessions stay full size until race week, so you'd have to build your own.
Look elsewhere. The book has a program, but none of it is on the schedule.
Look elsewhere. Every day has a run, though the book lets an easy day become rest now and then.
A good alternative with an app
Runners drawn to Daniels' 2 big days a week will find the same shape in a Buena Vida plan for its members: running nearly every day, mostly easy, with threshold runs, repeats at 5K effort, and race-pace blocks that grow from 3 miles to 8, some of them inside the long runs. It runs on fewer miles, building from about 58 a week to 74.
Closest matchWhy this plan scores higher
- A lighter week every fourth week of the build, so the hard weeks never pile up unbroken
- One day without running in every week, so you run 6 days instead of 7
- Strides on easy days in 8 of the 16 weeks and a hill session in week 3, all on the calendar
- Three named phases with a note for every week explaining what the current block is for
- A 3-week taper that trims the miles in steps on the way to the start line
- Strength sessions on your calendar every Sunday, from week 1 until race week
What the app adds
- No complicated lookup tables. Each day's workout is clear and easy to follow
- Paces worked out from your own fitness, and adjusted automatically as you get stronger
- Miss a run, move a run, and the plan carries on
- Voice coaching through every workout, and runs recorded from your iPhone, Apple Watch, or Garmin
Get more out of your running with Buena Vida
Buena Vida was built by a runner to bring the whole job of training into one place: a plan that fits your schedule and your fitness, coaching on every run, and food targets that keep up with the work you do. Members get personal training & nutrition plans, plus full access to the catalog of pre-written plans for every running goal.
In research studies, runners on plans fit to them improved as much as or more than runners on fixed plans, and fewer of them stalled.
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More plans like this
Each of these plans takes its own route to race day. Effort-based plans set your hard sessions by feel, so you learn what 10K effort and tempo feel like, and your training paces grow with you as you get stronger. Time-goal plans set every pace from the finish time you're aiming for. Others trade days, weeks, or mileage to fit your life.
Frequently asked questions
- Do I need the book to run the Daniels 2Q marathon plan?
- Yes. The schedule only names each run by type, in Daniels' shorthand. To know how fast each one should be, you need a recent race time and the pace tables in Daniels' Running Formula.
- What does 2Q mean?
- 2 quality sessions a week. Q1 is the more important one, usually the long run or the marathon pace session on day 1 of the week. Q2 is threshold work or intervals a few days later. The remaining days are easy runs, marked E.
- How many miles a week does this Daniels marathon plan run?
- It's written for runners at 86 to 100 miles a week. The schedule writes out the 2 Q sessions, and you fill the easy days until the week reaches your total. The plan assumes you've held 80 or more miles a week for several months, and it suggests a lower mileage tier if you're under 70.
- What is the longest run in the plan?
- The long easy run reaches 22 miles in weeks 12 and 15. Several Q1 sessions run 20 to 22 miles too, including one 3 weeks before the race with 16 miles at marathon pace.
- What is VDOT?
- VDOT is the fitness number Daniels' tables give you for a race result. Find yours from a recent race, and the same tables list your pace for every kind of run in this plan, from easy days to the fastest repeats. A faster race moves you up the table.
- Does the plan include strength training or strides?
- Not on the schedule. The book has a strength program in its chapter on strength and time off, and asks for strides on 2 or 3 easy days a week, but fitting both in is up to you.
- Does the Daniels 2Q plan have recovery weeks or a taper?
- There's no lighter week until the end. The easy miles dip 2 weeks out, but both Q sessions stay full size until race week, which is the only truly light week in the plan.
Research notes
- Shifting training emphasis beats unchanging training
- Consistent mileage is linked to fewer injuries
- Start at the mileage you already run, not the peak
- Fixed plans need built-in lighter weeks
- Mileage alone doesn't measure your load
- Strength training lowers injury risk
- Longer long runs go with faster marathons
- Recreational marathon pace sits below threshold
- A real taper sharpens you for race day
- Easy miles do most of the work
- Mix easy and hard instead of steady medium
